| Off-Road
Driving Tips
During every "ORE" Beginner
class we have a short period set aside for what we call
"classroom time", it is during this period that we discuss,
among others things, the off-road driving tips listed here. These
"tips" are proven material, and used by a number of
companies throughout the world, including numerous 4WD manufacturers.
Since you’ve read our web pages thus far, you must be ready to sign
up for one of our classes, right? Hey, we even teach Camel Trophy
participants and hopeful’s alike! How about you? Maybe you’ve read
about "ORE" in one of a number of publications or saw us on
KCRA-TV3. Yes?
1) Read your owners manual thoroughly
before going off-road, or on road for that matter. Learn your vehicle.
2) Never go out alone. A short
venture could be costly. One thing we try to stress during our
Off-Road Training classes is that you should never venture off the
highway alone, even more so in the cars of today. With all that
electrical fun and games bolts on here and there, you’d have a very
slim chance of driving out should a major problem occur. Remember the
western bound pioneers? Do you have any idea as to how long it took
them to cover ten miles? How about the hardships involved? Lack of
water? Lack of shelter? Poor clothing? Have you thought of these
things? NO? Just think, what if... You are ten miles off the main
paved road, your 4WD quits, possibly you have an accident, now what?
Your cel-phone doesn’t work, no one in sight, do you sit tight? Walk
out? Something to consider, isn’t it? Okay, so you walk, do you have
the right shoes? Clothing for when it gets cold at night? Water? Well?
Lots of questions, but few answers. One can’t foresee everything
that could go wrong, and shouldn’t try either. Being prepared
yourself and having your vehicle prepared and maintained to a
reasonable degree will help counter some problems. Taking along
another car is a smart thing to do, chances are both cars won’t quit
while out. The second car could surely tow out the first, or go for
help if necessary.
3) Always make sure your vehicle is
prepared before departing. Read "Preparing &
Maintaining".
4) Adopt a relaxed and upright
driving position with a loose grip on the steering wheel, taking note
to keep your thumbs out of the center section of the wheel, thus
avoiding broken thumbs from steering wheel kick-back. This is a common
problem on vehicles not equipped with power assisted steering.
5) Contact between your right foot
and the gearbox tunnel will help increase throttle control. The use of
a "dead-pedal" on the left is also helpful. DO NOT use the
clutch pedal as a "dead -pedal". Once the clutch is engaged
(out), keep your foot clear.
6) Know your minimum ground
clearance.
On vehicles equipped with "live" axles (fixed), the minimum
ground clearance is the lowest point of the axle housing, normally the
differential. This minimum clearance always remains the same as the
axle goes up/down with the wheels. To obtain your minimum clearance,
measure from the differential housing (its lowest point) to the
ground, there it is, your minimum ground clearance. The minimum
won’t change, though maximum can when a wheel climbs up.
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The
"Live" axle always maintains its minimum ground
clearance (arrows left). |
6A) On vehicles fitted with
independent suspension however, the front wheels are attached to the
A-arms which go up/down independently from each other, at the same
time the center portion of the chassis/suspension goes up/down as
well, though the exact opposite of the wheels. Type of terrain, as
well as braking can effect your ground clearance dramatically; when
the front wheels are bottomed on their suspension points (up in the
fenders as far as they can go), your chassis and front suspension
pivot points are now very vulnerable to damage as they come closer to
the obstacle. It is a proven fact, that for heavy duty off-road work
vehicles fitted with "live" axles are preferred.
As you can see from above, the ground
clearance varies as the suspension moves up/down. Left: In its
unloaded position you could have 8" (example), while Right: In
its bottomed position it could reduce to half. Always be aware of
vehicle ground clearance and obstacles.
7) Suspension & Wheel Travel.
Since the time man first developed wheeled vehicles his thought must
have been on smoothing the ride. Leaf springs have been around since
what must be the beginning of time. Horse drawn wagons, buggies and
the famed stage coaches had leaf springs. The leaf spring has two
advantages over any other form of suspension, in that a) it’s cheap
to produce, and b) they will carry heavy loads. A number of today’s
4wds are still built with leaf springs (on a HD pickup its
understandable), while others have gone the Coil spring route. Coil
springs do allow heavy carrying capacities to an extent while offering
a smoother ride and better wheel travel/articulation (movement up/down
& angle of axle). Other manufactures have sought to create car
like rides on their 4WD vehicles by fitting independent front
suspension, either torsion bar or coil sprung, though neither of which
is in its element when off-road. The best set up? Coil sprung/Live
axles; this set up offers smooth ride with extreme rates of wheel
travel (wheel movement up/down) and is still cost effective to build.
Independent front suspension, as described in #6A, is expensive, car
like, and offers little to the off-roader, as it can be damaged easier
than a live axle, has more pieces to maintain/damage, and can not
offer the wheel travel and stability when off-road.
8) Know your "Approach
angle", "Break-over" and "Departure angle"
(Below). Knowing these figures (i.e.: Clearance), you’ll be able to
negotiate obstacles much easier without damage to your vehicle.
Interested in learning what these figures are on your vehicle? Try a
long broom stick. Placing it under the edge of the tire, then lifting
up until it makes contact with the body, you now have some idea of
your angles. When off-road, drive up to your obstacle slowly, then
stop get out and look to check clearances upon approach. When clearing
the obstacle, be careful to "walk" the rear wheels off,
remembering always that most 4WD vehicles have some sort of overhang
beyond the rear axle (when "walking" your 4x4, the use of
brakes, a spotter and your own sight will enable you to creep the rear
wheels off the obstacle). Damage will result if care is not taken. As
far as break-over is concerned, also know as
"high-centered", this too will take a keen eye, the
assistance of a spotter, and practice.

9) Know your vehicles height and
width. Think about parking garages and parking spaces, will your 4WD
clear the obstructions within the structure? Now apply the same to
overhanging trees, narrow washes and rocks. Easy really.
10) Check the area(s) in which you
plan to travel off-road. Ask locals about conditions. Purchase and
review local maps. And... When in doubt, get out and take a brief walk
to review the terrain ahead. This walk could save hours of digging
and/or winching, or the anguish of having your new 4WD damaged.
11) Be aware of changing weather
conditions, the last thing you want is to get caught on the desert
floor. When in doubt head for high ground (when heavy rains come in),
and get out of the washes or off the desert floors. Beware of fast
running water... if you can’t swim it, don’t drive into it. Many
vehicles have been lost in rough weather and water. Beware!
12) Know your Four-wheel-drive
system. Unlike days gone by, the systems of today vary in their modes
of operations and capabilities. Review your owners manual or talk with
an expert concerning your vehicle make. Don’t assume anything.
13) Engage Low-Range before you need
it. Choose the correct gear for the situation, see #12. Note: On
vehicles fitted with a manual center "Diff-Lock", this
should be disengaged once traction has been regained. However,
Low-Range should be kept engaged until clear of the hazardous area(s).
FYI: This center differential-lock is just that, a lock, locking the
front & rear drive outputs of the transfercase together. When
unlocked (disengaged) it will prevent "axle windup" with in
the drivetrain. Vehicles fitted with a standard High-Low/2wd-4wd
system have no center-differential, and when engaged in 4WD for long
periods they will induce axle windup. You may notice that in tight
turns while in 4WD that the front wheels will seem to hop and buck,
this is the windup trying to escape from the system. Don’t be
alarmed.
14) Before entering a difficult
section, make your choice of gear selection. Remember that you should
ALWAYS use lst gear (First, Low-Range) on down-hills for maximum
engine braking effect, and keep the use of brakes to an absolute
minimum, the use of which could cause sliding and loss of control. To
correct a sliding vehicle, turn into the slide and apply some
throttle, you will now have to straighten the steering wheel and let
off the throttle. Gear selection for up-hill use depends on the make
of vehicle, though 2nd or 3rd would be a good place to start. Choosing
too high a gear can lug or stall an engine, keep you eye on the tach.
Using steady rev’s of 1800-2200 rpm is a good starting point.
15) If conditions are soft (marshy
ground, sand, etc.) it may be advisable to lower tire pressures. This
helps improve traction, and will reduce sinking. Tires will have to be
re-inflated for road use.
16) When ground conditions appear
difficult, such as rocks, ruts, etc., it is advisable to select a path
by foot prior to driving through, thus reducing the chance of getting
stuck or damaging your vehicle. The use of a spotter is also
recommended.
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The
use of a spotter is always a good idea. |
17) Exercise care when applying the
throttle. Excess throttle will cause wheel spin (digging) and could
stop forward movement. Don’t dig with your wheels, otherwise
you’ll be digging with a shovel!
18) Momentum of a fast moving vehicle
will always overcome the drag and reduce the traction needed from the
wheels. When it is clear that NO obstacle is in the way to cause
damage, a fast approach to a steep hill, soft sand, mud, etc., can
very often be effective.
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wheel spin to a minimum, thus keeping forward movement. |
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19) When crossing ditches, ruts,
logs, etc., always try to keep as many wheels as possible on the same
type of surface. Avoid getting the wheels airborne. Also ditch &
log crossing should be done at 45-degree angles, not head on, thus
keeping traction loss to one wheel only.
20) Always be aware of obstacles
under your vehicle, keeping in mind you only have so much ground
clearance. Avoid existing deep ruts, sudden changes in slopes, plus
remember your approach and departure angles.
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Always
be aware of where your Right-Rear tire is, and what it's about
to contact. |
21) Maximum advisable wading depth is
approx 20-inches. If equipped, fit the bellhousing wading plug prior
to setting out. Make sure your engine air intake does not suck water,
otherwise great engine damage will occur. Though some vehicles are
known for driving through deep water, we don’t suggest it (you need
specialized vehicles & equipment). If you have to cross that
stream, survey it first. If the water is glass smooth and you can’t
see the bottom, a muddy bottom is usually the norm. If choppy and
rough, rocks are then the cause. When surveying you’ll have to check
depth, current speed, condition of the stream bottom (does it offer
traction or not?). Don’t try driving against the current, and if you
have to cross, take it a right angles, or angle your way down stream
to the opposite bank, letting the current help you along. You are
in... don’t splash, this will normally cause an engine to be soaked
(causing it to quit, or suck water down the air cleaner). Begin slowly
and create a "bow-wake", taking care to keep a steady speed.
22) After driving through deep water
(or mud), make sure your brakes are dried out immediately, thus being
fully operational when needed. This can be done by driving a short
distance with the brake pedal applied lightly. You should also check
your air filter for water.
23) When dealing with mud, refer to
#10, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 & 18 for starters. Now think about what
gear you’ll use, we normally try second gear low-range (possibly 3rd
with a V8 & automatic), keep a steady speed, not too fast, and try
not to spin the wheels, as if they are, you are not going forward. If
you loose forward movement, lift off the throttle slightly, enough to
stop the spinning and see if you regain traction, normally you well.
Throttle control and traction is the key to driving in the mud.
24) Should you get stuck, careful
thought and experience will usually provide a solution. However, the
trick is not to get stuck in the first place. The idea of having a
winch is great, but just in case you don’t have one, look at your
situation, then clear any/all obstacles from in front of all four
tires. Adjust air pressure as necessary, then begin a rocking motion
(forward-reverse, etc.). In most cases it will do the trick. If not,
it may be necessary to jack up the car and place rocks, matting, etc.,
under the tires for added traction. It may also be necessary to remove
all payload from the load space area.
25) Driving in the snow can be a
daily chore for some, or fun for others. The problem isn’t the snow,
but the ice under it. Let’s talk freeway snow driving: You’re
headed east for Reno over Donner Pass, the summit is some 7300 feet
above sea level, the snow line begins a 3000 feet, the CHP has a chain
requirement up and is advising all to stay away. So what do you do?
Head for the mountains no doubt. Whether you are going skiing for the
weekend, or on business, if the CHP has warnings and requirements up,
stay home! That cures that, right? No? Like most you’ll go anyway,
clogging the roads for all those that have to get across. Don’t,
stay home... please.
So you run into driving snow at 3000
feet, by 4000 Cal-Trans has the road blocked checking for chains or
4wds with snow tires (see #26). From this point on the road is white,
your vehicle type will have a lot to do with whether or not you’ll
have an easy time of it. Lets take a Range Rover first, post-’88
with a viscous coupler transfer (these vehicles are full-time 4WD).
Really you don’t have to do a thing, just drive it. For example, if
you’re in a Land Rover Discovery or Defender, or a pre-’89 Range
Rover, these are fitted with a manual center-diff-lock (still
full-time 4WD), and when encountering slick areas such as snow covered
roads (or mud), the center-diff must be locked to obtain maximum
traction. Leave it locked until blacktop appears from under the snow
and traction has be regained (center-diff-lock may be operated at any
speed). Now you’re driving a ‘96 Trooper with a V6, or a Honda
Passport, now what? It’s in 2WD most of the time, and engaging 4WD
on a snow covered road requires slowing and/or stopping in order to
engage high-range 4WD (read your manual). Now, some of these vehicles
limit the speed in which you can travel in 4WD high-range (meaning
highway speed ratio), thus you’ll again have to research such things
with your dealer. Anyway, 4WD must be engaged otherwise you’ll have
no traction, thus no control, and possibly no forward movement. In
fact, the CHP could require you to fit chains, or worse yet, turn
back. The Bravada, and vehicles like it, the owner should be concerned
when in snow conditions, as though they are built as a street type
4-wheeler, and are not an off-road vehicle, and can do quite well in
snow conditions (plowed) with the right tires fitted, they still have
no low-range capabilities, thus in extreme conditions can be no better
than the average car fitted with chains. As said earlier, the snow
isn’t so much the problem, except visibility (keep your lights on
low-beam, no driving lamps, but fog lamps okay -yellow even better),
its the ice under it. ABS braking is the current fad, and though
"ORE" doesn’t endorse ABS as a whole, this is one of the
few times they show their worth. Driving in the snow is like racing
motorcycles in the rain... you have to be smooth. Don’t use abrupt
throttle openings, heavy braking, or quirky steering movements. Apply
the throttle smooth and steady. Do all your braking in a straight line
(release the pedal prior to making your turn). If in a bad situation,
do not lock the wheels up with the brakes! Down shift as necessary,
engine braking will slow the vehicle straight and smooth in most
cases. Make your turns in a nice smooth arch, don’t jerk the wheel.
Think egg shells. Remember that braking distances have increased ten
fold, thus you’ll have to adjust your driving habits... don’t
follow so close (as you might do in commute traffic), stay off the
brakes if at all possible - down shifting instead of constantly
dragging on the brakes; stay in one lane - changing lanes can be
deadly due to berms of built up snow between the lanes. If you’re
spooked about driving in adverse conditions you have two choices; a)
stay home, or b) take one of our classes that deal with such.
Here’s a little story.... A
gentleman calls about our classes, says he’s just bought a new Jeep,
replacing the one he totaled out on Donner during the winter.
"What happen?" I asked, "I was coming down the
mountains, it was snowing hard, then all of a sudden it spun and I
went down an embankment!" he replied. I asked one question of
him... "Did you have the brakes on?" "Why yes, and it
still wouldn’t stop!". WRONG! No brakes! Lightly if you have
to.
Here’s another one... The
"ORE" crew is heading home on I-80, while Blain passes the
Nevada City exit he finds a Toyota 4WD pickup sideways in the road
stopped (very dangerous!). Blain stops, gets out and talks with the
driver and his wife, both of whom are freezing cold inside, and Blain
asks if they need help. They say they can’t get up the grade,
"the truck keeps going sideways". Blain asks if the driver
has 4WD engaged, the driver replies "yes!". Blain proceeds
to ask if the driver has any chains, which are quickly produced, then
goes about fitting them (though the tires were marked
"M&S", they were not the type that should be in such
conditions). Blain completes fitting the chains and instructs the
driver to proceed, that he would follow him up the grade, or tow him
if needed. With that, the couple crank up their truck, but it won’t
move, the rear wheels (one of them) was spinning, but no action up
front. Blain has them hold up, then checks the locking hubs up front.
Guess what? They weren’t locked! When in doubt, stay home, or...
take our class regarding winter time driving.
Here’s another one for those with
children out and about. During the same driving blizzard that Blain
came across the Toyota, John and Michael would come across someone in
need as well. Descending down the mountain a set of lights were
spotted coming up, it is difficult to tell who’s doing what with all
that snow falling. As they approached said lights, they noticed the
lights were stationary and off to the right. Moments later they’d
find an S10 Blazer backed down into a snow drift, three young college
girls inside wondering what to do next. After checking on their
health, the age old question of... "do you have it in
4-wheel-drive?" was asked, "I think so" was the reply
from with in. "Okay then, put it in second gear and lightly touch
the throttle and we’ll see what happens", the rears spun. After
engaging 4WD low-range and again applying throttle, the Blazer refused
to move, its chassis hung up on the drift. With that now known, the
only alternative was to winch them out. With the winching in progress
John informed the young ladies of the "ORE" classes and
handed them some information, to this day we’ve never heard from
them. Normal. Just think about what could have happened had
circumstances been only slightly different. Let’s not.
Off-roading in the snow can be a
blast, though caution is the word of the day. Since your off-road, you
can be sure no one has plowed the road or trail ahead. Snow packs
quickly when in front, or under your vehicle, a drift of only minor
depths can strand you, leaving you with digging and/or winching your
way out. When in doubt, survey it. Walk through it, find out how deep
the snow is before you drive 5000-pounds of 4WD into it. Though while
driving in it, depending on depth and pack, again use smooth throttle,
braking and steering methods. Remember that when on a dirt trail/road
that the snow will freeze the puddles under it, and every now and
again sheets of flying ice may appear as you tear across the surface.
26) Tires or Tyres... There are so
many different types of tires available now days that choosing the
correct one for you and your vehicle may get a bit confusing. Consider
where you live (snow belt or sunny California). Think of your primary
use first, then consider how much off-roading you really do. If
you’re commuting everyday, you really don’t need Mud T/A’s.
Don’t over-tire your vehicle either. Always remember that all
wheels, including the spare must be of the same type, size and make.
If your vehicle is equipped with a space-saver spare, get rid of it
immediately. These so-called spares are more trouble than they are
worth, in most cases all but useless. If you’re off-road, or worse,
chained up, and you have a flat, now what? If you’re chained?...
Let’s say your right-rear tire is flat, you’ll first have to jack
up the front and fit the space-saver, then transfer the proper
wheel/tire to the right-rear, where the chains can then be refitted. A
lot of work. If you didn’t do so, and fitted the space-saver on the
right-rear, you’ll quickly find out that the chains do not fit. With
only one wheel chained you’ll go nowhere. When off-road, you will
now have a tire smaller than the others, which isn’t good for the
axles and transfercase gears (this applies to any spare tire not of
the same size as those fitted to the vehicle), nor is it very helpful
when traction maybe needed to get back to pavement. A number of tires,
though marked "M&S", are not legal by CHP or Cal-Trans
standards, so beware! On a recent trip we spotted a number of 4wd
suv’s chained up while crossing Donner Pass, this was due to the
type of tires fitted, i.e.; road bias type. This is something we
don’t understand. A number of 4wd owners (and dealers) have a nasty
habit of fitting overly large tires to their 4wd’s. It may look
good, but chances are it has a number of draw backs. The larger the
increase in tire diameter, the more the final drive gear ratio is
effected, as is performance. Large tires also effect hub bearings,
steering, as well as suspension and ride, the latter two relate to
excessive un-sprung weight on the axles. Finally, the speedometer will
no longer read correctly. Today’s electronic speed-o’s are nearly
impossible to re-calibrate. When considering changing the tires size
and rim width/dia, check with a real expert, one that will give you
the complete story (beware of those just trying to make a sale). As
already stated elsewhere, tire pressures can be adjusted to increase
traction (and improve ride), but they must be re-inflated prior to
road use, otherwise heat build up can cause tire damage and/or
blowouts, handling will also be effected. Excessive tire pressure will
give a poor ride and poor handling. Check your owners manual first,
then tire manufacturer specifications. Do not blow the tires up to
their maximum for general road & off-road work, it’s too high.
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Having
the correct tires while off-road, and in the snow, will only
benefit you. |
27) Snow chains... How many of you
own them? How many have used them? Believe it or not, chains are not
only a benefit in snow and ice, but can work wonders off-road as well.
If in very slick mud conditions and forward progress is near nil, try
fitting the chains (correct sizes with rubber or spring straps, not
cable-chains!), you’ll be surprised. Which wheels do you fit them
on? Normally on the rear, even more so when climbing up hill, or
towing, as the weight transfers to the rear wheels, thus giving you
maximum traction. In some cases it may be necessary to fit them to the
front, or all four (4) wheels. Just because you own a 4WD, don’t
think you’re immune to chaining up while in the mountains, you’re
not.
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the best 4wd's need snow chains now and again. In the snow or
mud, carry a set. |
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28) Rocks, these can be tricky, and
it’s almost an art, either of getting through, or smashing your car
(ala Rubicon). We’re not "rock climbers" here at
"ORE", and all Beginner & Intermediate courses avoid the
rough areas (Advanced & 1-on-1 course may choose to go to such
areas). When off-road however, you’ll always encounter rocks of some
sort or another. Careful driving and spotting can help you avoid
vehicle and wheel/tire damage (be careful with the sidewalls on your
tires, rocks can tear them open). Survey the area chosen first. Walk
it. Use your spotter as necessary. Find that path through. Drive
slowly and with caution, remembering your ground clearance,
approach/departure angles, plus your break-over clearance. If rocks
are too large to put under your car, you’ll have to go around, or...
over them. Be careful. Here’s another story we’d like to share
with you. Daddy buys young son a new 4WD for graduation, $35K kind of
money. One day vehicle arrives at our shop on a tow truck. With only
4000 miles on the clock it has four flat tires, four damaged rims, a
bent front bush guard, rear lamp guards ripped off, the front axle
bowed, and paint scratched to death. We asked what and where this had
happened, the reply being "we were on the Rubicon!".
"What part?", we asked. After a chat, it seems the young 4x4
driver had sped into a large rock field, not having a clue that he’d
have to walk the vehicle up and over the immovable obstacles, the
expensive damage was the end result of his lack of experience and
knowledge.
29) Hill climbing, some think, is a
sport in itself. When you see off-roaders rushing up a particular hill
for the sole reason of getting to the top, you can be sure trouble
isn’t too far behind. In most cases this is a useless sport,
damaging the trails, and usually the vehicle (everything from broken
axle shafts from excessive wheel spin, to roll overs). If you have to
go up, refer to #14 & 18 for starters. Should your vehicle stall
part way up, don’t panic! Quickly hold the brakes, engage reverse
(re-start engine if needed) and release all pedals, letting the
vehicle back down in gear via engine braking, stay off the brakes!
With the engine now above you, and the weight shifted onto the rear
axle, your vehicle is quite unstable and can go into roll-over-mode
very easy. If... the front end begins to slide to one side, quick use
of the throttle will straighten the vehicle out, as soon as its once
again straight with the trail, release the throttle, DO NOT touch the
brakes, as the front end will try to pass the rear when the weight
shifts further. We’ve seen what happens to a number of these types
of off-road wrecks, sometimes with nasty and deadly results.
When coming down front first, engage
low-range/first gear and then nose it over the edge. Let the engine
and gearbox do all the work (engine braking). Don’t panic, try and
stay off the brake pedal. If it starts sliding, touch the throttle
enough to overcome (out run) the slide, then release the pedal once
again letting the engine do its thing. Easy really.
30) Side slopes are another hazard of
off-roading. Some vehicles can operate on a 45-degree side slope, but
only with traction. Basically, try to avoid such dangerous situations
when possible.
31) Don’t overload your vehicle.
Keep in mind that loads should be distributed evenly within the
vehicle if at all possible. Loads behind the rear axle will sag the
rear of the vehicles, thus limiting departure angle/clearance. When a
roof rack is fitted be extremely aware of weights and how they are
distributed. Excessive loads will change the center-of-gravity, thus
making the vehicle less stable. Also, beware of the additional height
of the vehicle with the rack fitted.
32) Once clear of your off-road area
it is most important that you check over your vehicle completely
before commencing with your highway travel. It is important that the
vehicle is checked over completely for leaks or brush hanging from the
frame, or anything else that could prove hazardous to you and your
vehicle or other drivers before commencing freeway speeds and travel.
Be sure to check & inflate the tires.
33) A quick and brief reminder...
- Remember to Check out difficult or
unfamiliar terrain.
- Remember to drive smoothly with
throttle, brake and steering control.
- Remember to use common sense, it
may be all you have.
- Remember to always wear your
seatbelt.
- Remember to drive with in your
abilities, not over your head.
- Remember to never go out alone.
- Remember to use 1st gear/low-range
on down hills... engine braking.
- Remember to always check your car
afterwards, re-inflate tires, etc.
- Remember to TREAD LIGHTLY!
For more information concerning
off-road accessories such as winches, hi-lift jacks, locking
differentials, tires, lights, under vehicle protection, feel free to contact
"ORE" anytime with your questions or purchasing
requirements.
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